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***Science Vs. Art***

“There is a conflict between science and art. By ‘art’, I mean a certain integrated idealism. It is a centripetal something, opposed to the endless centrifugal forces of science. Eventually science will fly apart and fall of its own forces. There is too much for anyone to know. It is no longer possible, as in Bacon’s day, for one man to take all knowledge as his province. The seeds of decay and disunion are there as a mass becomes too unwieldy—it works like everything else in nature—attractions set up repulsions, backwards and forwards it goes, now one side winning, now the other side.

“Science will win in the present set up of things but it will likely carry civilization down with it when it goes. Then art will have to step in, gather up the pieces and carry on. Of course it is possible that there will be developed scientists who are artist as well. They must realize that there is something dynamic about idealism and apply that dynamism as they would any other force. Then civilization may be able to continue. But I doubt it—forces and counter forces—attractions and repulsions—all say “no.”

–Nikola Tesla.

“Tesla Predicts New Source of Power in Year.” New York Herald Tribune, July 9, 1933.

The conversation turned to the subject of the human brain. “We…

The conversation turned to the subject of the human brain.

We are all automatons,” he reflected, “obeying external influences. We are entirely under the control of agents that beat on our senses from all directions of the outside world. Being merely receivers from the outside, it is a very important question how good the receivers are – some are sensitive and receive accurately. Others are sluggish and their reception is blurred. The individual who is a better machine has so much greater chance of achieving success and happiness. An individual who is an offender of law is a machine in which one or another organ has been deranged, so that the responses are no longer accurate.

There is no chance in nature, although the modern theory of indeterminacy attempts to show scientifically that events are governed by chance. I positively deny that. The causes and effects, however complex, are intimately linked, and the result of all inferences must be inevitably fixed as by a mathematical formula.

I also absolutely deny the existence of individuality. It took me not less than twenty years to develop a faculty to trace every thought or act of mine to an external influence. We are just waves in time and space, changing continuously, and the illusion of individuality is produced through the concatenation of the rapidly succeeding phases of existence. What we define as likeness is merely the result of the symmetrical arrangement of molecules which compose our body.”

“How about the soul – the spirit?” he was asked.

Ah,” he exclaimed, “but there is no soul or spirit. These are merely expressions of the functions of the body. These life functions cease with death and so do soul and spirit.

What humanity needs is ideals. Idealism is the force that will free us from material fetters.”

–Nikola Tesla.

“Tesla Seeks to Send Power to Planets.” New York Times, July 11, 1931.

“Water-power is by far our most valuable resource. On this…

“Water-power is by far our most valuable resource. On this humanity must build its hopes for the future. With its full development and a perfect system of wireless transmission of the energy to any distance man will be able to solve all the problems of material existence. Distance, which is the chief impediment to human progress, will be completely annihilated in thought, word and action. Humanity will be united, wars will be made impossible and peace will reign supreme.”

–Nikola Tesla

“The Wonder World to Be Created By Electricity.” Manufacturer’s Record, September 9, 1915.

These past few posts can be summed up by that “you could make a religion out of this, oh wait no…

These past few posts can be summed up by that “you could make a religion out of this, oh wait no don’t!” Part of the History of Everything.
Please don’t think I know all the answers or think I know the true way to live life. There’s some things so opinionated and subjective science simply cant tell you, like if you should just relax and enjoy life while you have it and not worry about what happens after you die, and just have as much enjoyment as you can with the time you have left, living how you want and having the best life you can live, or if you should keep working hard, struggling and suffering, reproducing, with the goal of making the human race as great as you can and making this last as long as you can, struggling to keep the human race alive even when our extinction is inevitable and never giving up!

It’s a very Sans vs Undyne thing,if I have to relate everything to Undertale.

I was wondering something, and it kind of has to do with the science/biology of the brain and Undertale souls. In the Undertale universe, is it possible to create an artificial soul using hormones, neurotransmitters, and monster magic to mimic love, hope, and compassion, the three things that make up a monster soul? And if so, should Alphys have tried that instead of injecting determination into monsters who had fallen down?

This is a pretty cool question, it’s sort of a matter of philosophy. We know monsters are made of elements/molecules shaped and controlled by magic, they don’t have cells or brains, as we can see from monsters that have body parts that move or don’t collapse despite not being connected to the rest of the body, like Undyne when cut in half or Papyrus when he is beheaded. They don’t follow the same rules as organisms.

It brings up the point: what separates animals from humans in the Undertale Universe? It’s hard to determine what animals are monsters in the form of animals, and what are actual animals. Some snails in the game are obviously monsters. However, the snails that Toriel eats and bakes into pies are real animals, their shells are left behind when she eats them, they don’t turn to dust. Plus, the queen of monsters eating her own subjects seems a tad cruel. However, Toriel doesn’t absorb the souls of the snails, you don’t see 1000 little souls around her monster soul. She doesn’t have the power to pass through the barrier, so apparently even thousands of snails souls are not equal to one human soul in power… snails do not have souls.

What do you need to have in order to have a soul? Do you need sentience? Self awareness? The ability to feel empathy, compassion, attraction, love, happiness, or some other feeling? What makes determination in a human different from the basic urge and drive to survive? Free will? There are quite a few species of animals that possess these emotional and cognitive and psychological traits we once believed were purely human. We have artificial intelligence on the verge of reaching the definition of some of these traits. We have mapped the neural network and cells and genome and nervous system of the nematode C. elegans, and can simulate it and run it on a computer. Does this program, run on a computer, have the same value, the same life, the same soul as a live nematode? What about in the future when we do this with a fruit fly? A zebra fish? A rat, capable of empathy and fear and stress and problem solving and pain? A primate, capable of being self aware, complex emotions, love, determination?

What about the day in the future, with an extremely powerful super computer, in which we are able to model and run the brain of a human being, scanned to such detail of cellular organelles and charges that the “mind” and memories and “soul” are identical to the dead human whose brain was used?

This is the point of this blog. We started with a topic of an indie game made mostly by a young adult who likely never once though about any of this, and it’s lead to this big picture with a topic with real importance, a philosophical question and realization that makes you think. I took you to the future of science and the human race and educated you while giving you an opportunity to consider something that may alter your view of life, souls, brains, animals, memories, computers, technology, death, and the emotions and mechanisms of our brains that determines what life is for us.